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May 16th, 2008
Dear Friend,
Whew… what a week it’s been. I’ve been one BUSY guy! I’m not complaining- I love it!
I’ve got a ‘home-run’ of an Armed American Report for you this week. Honestly- this is jam-packed with some great information, and also a heart-pounding story from our forum that happened over the week. It gets kind of long… but I am omitting the Gear Review to make up for it. First… a little bit of house-keeping:
Have you all heard of this website? http://www.gratitudecampaign.org/ ? If not, you have to check it out. I don’t remember who exactly told me about it, but the videos and the message there are just out of this world.
What’s next… Last week, I told you about a great ‘grass-roots’ site called ‘Buckeye Firearms Association‘, and I inadvertently implied that they were the ONLY ones behind the Ohio’s Concealed Carry Laws. While they were a driving force, I also want to mention that another organization is on the front-lines in the fight for Ohio gun-rights- Ohioans for Concealed Carry. Keep up the good work- all of you grass-roots organizations. Our nation DEPENDS on groups like you.
I finally connected with the last two winners of the Armed American Report Challenge.. whew! Soon, I will have some pictures of the winners with their new pistols, but for now, here they are:
Stacey D Rupe from Minnesota won a new Taurus Pistol.
and Mr. P Griffis from Arizona won 500 rounds of ammo.
Okay, what do you say we get this rolling?
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“Role of the Shotgun”
by Gabe Suarez
Let me begin by saying that I have used shotguns against live fighting adversaries several times. Moreover, I received the classic training in this weapon at the academy which birthed the “modern technique” of the shotgun.
Training and reality sometimes conflict. While the so-called “modern school” of the shotgun seeks to equip the weapon like a rifle (sights and slugs, and choking), and promote its theoretical versatility due to ammunition types available, these notions are foolish. I will show you why.
The shotgun comes into its niche in “expected” very close range fights, often in reduced light where the tempo of events does not favor traditional rifle marksmanship principles, and where devastating damage needs to be inflicted in as short a time as possible with minimum number of shots. An additional asset of the shotgun is that the nature of buckshot, and its pattern of impact, lends to hitting adversaries in time frames and in situations that might otherwise not allow hitting with a single projectile weapon such as a rifle. The rapidly decreasing velocity and low penetrative characteristics of the ammo tends to minimize collateral damage that may result from rifle fire. That, my friends, is what the shotgun is for, and what it has been used for since the first shotgunner picked up his smoothbore to go kill other men.
The current trend has been to say the shotgun is a versatile weapon. In truth, in combat it is not versatile at all. That you can load it with a myriad of ammunition types is uninteresting since for shooting human adversaries there are really only two choices – buckshot or slugs. We have all heard the issue of using birdshot for home defense at some point. That may be an option for those who live in thickly populated urban environments surrounded top to bottom with neighbors, or for use on the training range so target systems are better preserved. But bird shot is a horrible choice for anything else.
Similarly the police issue of using less-lethal or gas rounds has little to do with anything outside that special purpose. Agencies that use such munitions now have specialized dedicated shotguns for them. For the private citizen (for whom this is intended) gas rounds, breeching rounds, and/or less lethal rounds are typically useless. Why would you “bean bag” a man who is trying to shoot you? Even the police only use this sort of thing because of forced policy changes…and even then, only when accompanied by another officer armed with a real firearm.
My biggest point of contention is the over-choking of the shotgun barrel. This is usually done in hopes of tightening the pattern’s impact at longer distances. The trade-off is that one will have in essence the same problem as if he was firing single projectiles. Rather than a fist-sized pattern impact at 25 yards, what we need is uniformity of pattern, and that does not require over-choking the barrel. It can obtained with the purchase of high quality ammunition.
Another point is the use of slugs. When Jeff Cooper began promoting the shotgun at his school in Paulden, AZ, he sought to convert the “erratic” shotgun into a weapon he understood better, the rifle. On came the ghost ring sights, in went the slugs and the chokes…even a shotgun shooting sling, all in the hope of reaching farther and hitting with greater precision…like a rifle. But no matter how you seek to equip a shotgun, it will never do as well at the mission of a rifle, as a real rifle. Eventually someone will ask the very pertinent question – “Why not just forget all of this and simply use a rifle?”
Why not indeed?!
Any attempt to make a shotgun do the rifle’s job makes for a poor rifle and a useless shotgun. Even the poorest rifleman can outshoot the best shotgunner in a rifle problem, and any off the rack shotgun can match the “modern technique” shotgun for true close range shotgun problems. So again…what is the point?
The only viable reason for this forced metamorphism would be for the poor cop whose agency has denied him the ability to have a rifle and must make do with the only long gun permitted, the shotgun. Or the similar situation of some oppressed subject living in a nation or state where rifles are prohibited, but shotguns are allowed. But I would say that those two situations are rather special cases. Unless they are the only folks interested in shotguns, we have left a great number of interested parties out of the discussion.
For those with access to rifles, there is no need to so modify the shotgun trying to build a rifle. Doing so is akin to putting a Ferrari body on a Unimog chassis.
The natural choice in ammo for the shotgun is buckshot. Buckshot’s pattern impact allows you to hit adversaries in time frames and situations where you would probably miss with any other weapon. Usually right about now someone will bring up the issue of errant pellets. The liability-fearing police world demands that every single shot fired hit its intended mark. Yet this rarely happens in anything but a police ambush. It is in fact impossible in anything resembling a reactive gunfight. The hit ratio, by the way, in spite of the ongoing “guarantee every shot mentaility, is still only 51% hits. Its not that cops are bad shots, its that gunfights are vastly vastly different than range training and no matter what the desired results are, you can’t ignore nature of the dynamics of conflict.
Anyone who would dispute this is either trying to push an agenda or has never been in a gunfight in the dark, close in, against men who were actually trying to kill without being killed themselves.
So if it is impossible to do with pistols, rifles, and submachineguns, why would we think it could be done with a shotgun? Rather than seeking to customize the shotgun to fulfill an impossible demand, we should focus instead on how to use it well and center the bad guy in the pattern of buckshot.
Again, this allows you to hit him when you would otherwise miss. That, my friends, is what the shotgun is for. Can you do that with slugs?
No.
Disagree with this statement? Show me. And if are a shooting machine, and you can, then show me what the ability to do so will give you that the same great skill with a regular rifle will not also give you.
What is important with a shotgun???
1). Know tactical advantage and Liabilities of Shotgun and their ammunition
2). Develop sound Firing Positions, Ready Positions as well as Ready Carry
positions
3). Learn Reality Based Marksmanship that takes advantage of the standard
shotgun pattern
4). Learn tactically appropriate Gunhandling Drills & Transition to Pistol if suitable.
5). Learn CQB Responses to any point along a 360 arm’s length to 7 yards. Its
important to focus on fast close shooting because this is where you will use the
weapon, not at the mythical rifle ranges some schools are suggesting..
6). Learn the ability to retain/recover/and fight with the weapon in body to body fight
(including alternative force issues)
7). Learn Shooting in diminished light and the use of assisted lighting, as well as
the use of Tactical Point Shooting.
8). Learn Shooting on the Move (in anything but firing from ambush you must move
or get hit).
9). Learn Reality Based Multiple adversary responses (not simply shooting at five
pepper poppers).
10). Learn YOUR natural body speed and shoot as fast as YOU can guarantee the
hits (not on how fast some “master” shot with his souped up $3000 Bennelli
back in 1990).
Develop these attributes and you will do well with your shotgun in any fight. Isn’t progress wonderful?!
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This week I’m going to do something a little different. A truly heart-pounding post was made on the USCCA forum this week, and I think that there is a GREAT lesson here for all of us Armed Citizens. So what I’m going to do is give you the initial post, and then a few of the responses. This is just a TASTE of the information that is added to the USCCA forum daily… Here goes- HANG ON!
My first time drawing a gun in real defense… by ‘darkenedsun827′
I’m still really shaken up by the events of this past Tuesday morning…
First off, I’ll need to back track to four days ago, Sunday morning around 9AM, I walked out to my Nissan Xterra to get ready to drive to Church. Immediately I noticed my door was slightly opened and both my center console and glove compartment were left wide open. My sunglasses, CD’s, and jacket were thrown around the inside cabin. Now, the sinking-gut feeling soaks in… MY CAR JUST GOT ROBBED! After inspection of the damage, two things were found missing, my Taurus m617.357 snub-nose (glove box) and my Polish P-64 Makarov (ctr console) nothing else was taken [including a $150 stash in a seat pocket and two expensive pocket knives]. I called the police right away, they took possible suspect fingerprints, filed stolen firearms reports and I attempted to deal with my significant losses.
For the past several days, out of paranoia, I have been randomly scanning my condominium parking lot in the middle of the night through my bedroom window, just to see if there was anything out of the ordinary. Without a garage, both me and my wife’s motorcycles are, apprehensively, parked out in the open next to our vehicles.
Now to the meat of the topic:
You won’t believe what I saw Tuesday morning @ 2AM. (yes I randomly woke up and looked out my window). There, between my Xterra and my Honda VTX 1800 cruiser motorcycle, stood a black figure lifting the door handles of my SUV and then turning and hunching over, feeling through out the engine compartment of my bike. Immediately I woke my wife up, told her to get her cell phone ready and to watch me through the window as I approached the dark figure. The closest firearm to me, which I grabbed, was my .50 caliber Beowulf AR-15; clearly I was in a hurry to get outside and find out what this guy was doing. Of course my wife quickly motioned for me to leave the rifle and take my compact .45.
I threw on my pants, shoved the Taurus PT145 behind my belt buckle, and grabbed my wallet and flashlight on the way out. As I approached my motorcycle I realized now that the dark figure was now on his side laying down along my bike’s engine, with his back to me as he was tinkering with my bike. When I got within 25 feet from him I turned on my flash light and yelled in a loud voice “WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THAT BIKE!!!” I can see that i scared him as he slowly turned around to face me. As he mumbled some incoherent excuses, he stood up, and let me tell you, I don’t know if it was just my adrenaline pumping or the lack of sleep but he seemed almost 7 feet tall and formidably built. What was even scarier was the fact that once he stood up he was quickly walking towards me with a very strange look on his face. I noticed in his left hand he held a few a wrench and a screw driver, but in his left hand was a fully extended box cutter-type blade.
“Is this really happening”………….. that’s the only thought I had as my body started to move on its own. In one motion my right foot back-peddled into a defensive stance, my left arm lifted my shirt, and my right hand’s thumb depressed the safety and the pistol was pulled to aim at my waist… as I yelled, “STAND BACK!!!”. At this point he stopped maybe 5 ft away. All I wanted to do is squeeze the trigger, but a part of me couldn’t justify taking his life…. right then he immediately faced his side and mumbled something as he slowly walked away. How weird is that?
During the whole time my wife had already called the cops and had a car enroute. As I watched his retreat into the woods, my wife met me outside also equipped with firearm and flashlight. A second later, me and my wife noticed some movement in the opposite side of my building that looked like someone running their way through the buildings and parking lot. Then all of a sudden an he jumps into an SUV, it turns on and pops in reverse to exit its parking spot. Not a moment too late, I could see a cop’s squad car make its way from the front gate of my subdivision. I flag the cop down and let them know my wife was the one to call, and the we think the SUV, that was now about to pass the cop, may have the guy inside. The lights turn on and the SUV gets pulled over at the front gate.
To shorten this story, this is the rest of the events… the SUV gets searched, the perps girlfriend (the driver) cried innocence like a maniac and was ordered to go home, the perp’s 17 yr old brother is driven home, and the perp is arrested for a pathetic charge of Criminal Mischief… somehow there wasn’t enough evidence to charge for Attempted Robbery (even with the freshly stripped ignition wires on my bike, the perp’s flashlight left by my bike and my positive ID!) Deep in my gut, I know this is the guy that took my guns several days before, and he was just stupid and greedy enough to come back for more. I doubt this guy is going to get anything more than a small fee and be set free to victimize either me or someone else! Should I have just shot him and not live in fear of a future incident from the same guy, or would that have caused for harm than good? I’m so frustrated at the situation!… How am I supposed to feel when this guy obviously has the nerve to return to my neighborhood, with the possession of at least two guns. This guy knows where me and my wife park? He might even know which condo I live in.
Are the police that indifferent about me and my wife’s safety, that they’re willing to ignore this criminal’s blatant acts? Which is fine as long as they understand that the next time this happens, I will be sure to not hesitate to end this Idiot’s career of crime; the guy is not going to be able to walk away.
What do you think I should do? Any advice would help me cope with this eye-opening experience. Regards and Appreciation.
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REPLY #1… by ‘mosseater’
I think the fact that you pointed a gun directly at him and he wasn`t shaken up at all tells us everything we need to know. Sounds like you did fine, though I`m no one to judge. Glad you`re all ok.
Biggest thing that jumps out at me is 5′ is way too close. He could have cut you to ribbons before expiring from a handgun wound, especially if he was a “big`ole boy”. Also, I`m pretty big on not confronting if I don`t have to. He was after your stuff and only was directed to you by your own actions. I know it would be tough to stand there and wait for the cops while he messes with your bike, and I won`t tell you I would either. Hindsight is 20/20 and quarterbacking is much easier from the arm chair. But, it IS only stuff. I think I may have waited for the cops. A cop told me to use a camera when ever possible. Preferably from a reasonable distance. The gun makes an excellent back up and the camera speaks louder in court. I also like the rifle idea. Some say a pistol should be used to fight your way back to the rifle you never should have put down in the first place.
Sounds like you best be on your toes for a while, you interrupted his work and he may not like it. Stay sharp.
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REPLY #2… by ‘youngda9′
At 5′, facing a guy with two weapons, coming at me in the dark, after obviously trying to steal my goodies….I don’t know. Well, actually I think I do.
You did well. 5′ is way too close to let him get to you though. You should have tried to keep him on the ground. And the second he came in your direction, draw and order to stop. Any more steps should have been his last.
At what distance did you draw and order him to stop. Was it at 5′? Or 10′ and he stopped at 5′….please clarify.
You’re alive and safe, so it was successful for you. Learn from it, and try not to dwell on it too much.
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REPLY #3… by ‘Minuteman’
Since coming away from a critical deadly encounter unscathed is always the goal, you were victorious. Glad you weren’t hurt or had to take the life of another, even if he was a low-life.
Nonetheless, I agree with the other responses here. Five feet is way inside your safety zone. The best tactic, as already stated, would have been to command the perp remain on the ground until law enforcement arrived. If he advanced on you with deadly weapons or even just the intent to inflict open-handed harm, you would have been legally and morally justified to take him down. And regardless of justification, at that point, it would have been your optimal reaction to insure your survival.
Before you even got yourself into that situation, however, is the better approach to avoid the critical deadly encounter altogether. The perp was only threatening your stuff, not your person. In that case, the better option would be to call 9-1-1 and let the cops do their job. If they didn’t arrive in time, and the BG got away with your bike…that’s what they make insurance for.
Thanks for sharing your experience. This is how were learn vicariously.
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REPLY #4… by ‘rikard’
At this point, I think it’s critical to closely monitor the events that follow. Don’t rely on the police to make this a high priority if you don’t stay on top of it. Did the guy get bailed out? What about his past record? Has he served time? Surely this wasn’t his first rodeo. I would want to know about what type of investigation the detectives would be starting on him, and when he goes to court; an event you definitely have to attend.
You said they fingerprinted the Xterra after you lost your pistols. What about matching up the prints? I’d be talking to the Chief of Police about why the girlfriend and brother, obvious accomplices, were cut loose at the scene without at least being checked for warrants and correct I.D.’s and addresses. My gosh, they were helping this thief in the middle of the night at your residence.
I would be getting this guy’s name and doing as much online background checking on him as I possibly could. You’d be surprised what you might dig up. If he’s got a violent history, you need to know that. The longer you wait to become proactive, the colder this dangerous event will become in the eyes of the police. He could very well pay a fifty dollar fine and go right back to his chosen trade of master dirt-bag.
Please keep us posted.
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REPLY #5… by ‘darkenedsun827′
I want to thank everybody for their advice. These past few days have been a little overwhelming. I have been received a plethora reactions to my experience, from family and friends (F&F), spanning the entire spectrum of possible “you should of…” and “why did or didn’t you…”. I know a lot of my F&F don’t agree with my lifestyle choice of owning and carrying firearms, so that’s a struggle in itself to justify.
It seems that the critical event was the decision to approach the thief while waiting for the police. I already had to make peace with the fact that I lost 2 firearms that meant little more to me than owning any other tool or piece of equipment. I knew then and know now that I will probably never see those 2 guns again. With that said, I don’t think I would be able to feel and treat that motorcycle in the same respect. As materialistic as that sounds, with that bike being my father’s most prized possession, and my father passing away, at the age of 48, a little over a year ago… I have to say that I would not be able to stand aside and accept never seeing it again. That’s stubborn, I know. Other than that bike, there are only two other things I would put myself in danger for, to protect and defend.. F & F.
Do I think that 5′ is way too close… your damn right!!! I get goose bumps just thinking at how fast it escalated from a 25′ buffer to 5′. Its scary how it took me about 5′ for him to stand up and approach me mumbling some dumb excuse for being there, and 10′ to realize what was in his hands and to see his intentions on his face. At 10′ away was when my shirt went up, the order to “stay back” was given, and the gun was positioned to shoot, and there he stopped 5′ away. Way too close and no, it was not my intention to allow him to get that close. I know now that it was my inexperience that allowed for that to happen. Having gone through what I did, I believe in the future I would act with more of a defensive mentality, and pay less mind to whether or not what I was doing was illegal. It’s a shame isn’t it, I am in the dark with a large man approaching me with a knife and I’m worried about the legalities!
I spoke to the officers before they left the scene and they did their best to convince me that since the thief knows now that criminal acts in my parking lot will no longer be “easy pickin’s” and will probably result in a gun in his face, he will probably not be seen around here anymore. But trust me, I’ll be in high alert a long time to come. As far as the pending consequences for the perp, I could use some advice on how to be proactive and be taken seriously. I have been told that the more personal I make it to punish the jerk, the more personal he may make it to repay his trouble. So how do I get justice without putting me and mine in more trouble…
Thanks again guys. It means a lot to me to know I’m not alone in my choice of lifestyle.
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REPLY #6… by ‘RangerVet75′
Ok, I’ve finished the story and have a few comments.
The facts are: You left the security of your home, at 2am, to confront an unknown man/Bad Guy (BG). I’m not going to try and be funny here or intentionally hurt your feelings, but I am going to “shoot straight”, and I hope a lot of people listen/read my critique:
* You did not prepare yourself to face more than one man
* You had no idea if the BG was armed, or what with, yet you still decided
to leave a secure area (in doors) to challenge him
* You decided to take a pistol in favor of a rifle, although the pistol is a poor
tool to stop a man and the rifle is most excellent
* You focused only on the man (tunnel vision)
* You failed to pick up (locate) his backup, who no doubt picked YOU up
right away
* Your hands were empty when you challenged the BG
* Your original challenge to the BG was in the form of a question
* You slipped the safety off your Taurus before you cleared your pants
* You never told the BG that you had him at gunpoint… ie., “Freeze, I have
a Gun” or “Stop or I’ll Shoot!”
* You allow the BG to close within striking distance
So, to recap:
You intentionally put your life, and your wife’s life, in danger as you confronted at least 3 people at 2am while doing almost everything wrong that I can see… but you didn’t get hurt. You didn’t shoot anyone. Your wife is fine. Whatever mistakes you made, it seems to have worked, and that is the bottom line. Nobody got hurt. You have (thankfully) another chance at planning for the next event.
I gotta tell you man, your post freaked me out. You CANNOT get away with stuff like that. Dude, you are lucky to be alive.
If that guy was a member of a crew, instead of trying to impress his girlfriend and brother, you would have probably been engaged by the lookout while you were walking across the grass, trying to get into position.
You don’t understand that the real bad guys do not play like that “kid” you met the other night. Real true bad guys, nowadays, kill anyone who tries to make them stop doing what they want to do.
Sometimes we may be forced to “go stop the BG from stealing x,y,z”, but you have to have a plan on how you’ll do it. You must never again do what you did here. Please, please, please, for the love of God… look into getting some training. Even if it is only one of those NRA “Valhalla DVD” training packages (with names like “Combat Focused Shooting”).
Realize that today’s BG may very well be smarter than you. He is, in fact, more experienced in performing criminal acts. He very well might be more experienced in shooting (God help us). If you are really unlucky, he might be a real gangbanger with 2 or more kills in his past.
And you had no idea who you were walking out to challenge. I’m sorry man, but your post is a good example for all of us.
I don’t mean to sound like I’m Chuck Norris and know it all. This is a good thing, and I’m glad you posted it in such detail. This is how we all can learn. If everyone who reads this picks out a lesson from this thread, then we are all learning.
I only hope some more advanced people help us out here. That is why I paid the $69… to learn how NOT to make these mistakes. I’ll keep an eye on this thread with hopes that the old guys hit it.
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“Tim-spiration” of the Week
USCCA PHOTO OF THE WEEK
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USCCA QUOTE OF THE WEEK
- Sometimes a good quote will inspire or motivate you. Sometimes, they’ll just put a smile on your face! Here is the quote for this week…
“Incoming fire has the right of way.”
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Self Defense Story OF THE WEEK
- Every day, thousands of Armed Americans use their firearms to preserve human life. Let this section of my newsletter serve as a record of this fact!
- “Business Owner Shoots At Suspects After Walking In On Robbery”
found at:http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/blogger.html
Orange County deputies are searching for one of two armed suspects who got into a shootout with a man when he caught them burglarizing his business and it happened next to a daycare full of children.
The shootout happened at the All Family Chiropractic Center in Pine Hills (see map) and, with bullets flying into a busy street, investigators said it’s amazing no one was hit. The suspects never got to fill their U-Haul with any loot. They ditched it a short distance from the office where witnesses heard the owner exchange gunfire with two men who broke into his business.
“I didn’t know what was going on. I thought it was firecrackers early in the morning, but it was not,” said witness Parker McPhee.
Orange markers in Pine Hills Road marked some of the bullets made it into the street Wednesday morning. Investigators said the owner was checking out a burglar alarm at his office when he caught two men in the act.
“When they see him, they are armed, and they open fire on him. He also was armed and he returns fire on them,” said Jeff Williamson, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputies caught one of the men soon after they parked the U-Haul between two houses.
The shootout happened next to the Tiny Praying Hands daycare, where more than 20 kids were already inside. Still, the owner defended her neighbor’s decision to shoot back at the burglars.
“I hope they catch the guys who did this. You have a right to protect your business. We get up every morning, work hard and it’s not right that people come in and take what we have,” Renee Harris said.
Deputies have not identified any of the suspects. Deputies caught one of them, but they’re searching for a second man who ran off on foot.
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Closing Thoughts
Whew, WHAT a newsletter, huh? I can’t believe the story that was posted on our forum… How dramatic! Thank God it turned out okay. What a reminder that we ALL need to try to stay as sharp as possible!
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